At the Bank of America Signpost Up Ahead, Your Next Stop – The Loan Modification Zone

A homeowner wrote to me the other day, and I could tell from her emails that she had been through the ringer trying to get a loan modification. I’ve heard from so many thousands of homeowners over the last year that I could probably guess the lender or servicer just from the tone of the email.

This particular homeowner, however, kept notes of her journey with Bank of America into The Loan Modification Zone, and I couldn’t help but share them… you’ll see why.  Usually I’d comment more, but this one speaks for itself, over and over and over again.

Oh, and one more thing… Yoohoo!  Bank of America people!  Are you listening?  Well, that’s a silly question, I know you’re not.  Here’s a better one:

ARE YOU ASHAMED?

Because you damn well should be.

Nice slogan, by the way.  What does it refer to?

My Journey to Get a Bank of America Loan Modification

1/14/09 - Hired a lawyer to help with the loan modification.  He made me do all the work on home values in my area. Submitted my income and expenses and wrote a hardship letter. My mortgage was not behind at this time.

2/23/09 – @5pm – My lawyer said he had been calling Bank of America but was not getting anywhere, so I decided to make a call to Bank of America.  I spoke with Crystal and she said the only thing she could offer was for me to request forbearance, but not a modification because I wasn’t behind on mortgage payments.

3/10/09 - My lawyer still could not provide me any answers and said I should keep trying to call as well. So I did.

4/10/09 - My lawyer told me he can’t get anywhere with B of A and said since I was getting more information than he was from B of A, then I should keep trying on my own.  I asked if I could get a refund since nothing was done, but the answer was No.

6/1/09 – Missed my first mortgage payment

6/8/09 - Received a letter from B of A stating “there are no options available” for me to modify.

7/9/09 – Bank of America told me to resend income and hardship letter asking for a modification so I faxed it in again.

9/20/09 - Called B of A about status since now  injured at work and was taken off work.  No update at this time.

11/17/09 - 11am- Spoke with Crystal. She requested I resent my income and hardship letter again. SO I DID.

12/1/09 - Via automated phone line. Collection activity suspended until 12/22/09. Work out info still in review.

12/21/09 - Called B of A. Modification still in review.  Told B of A I was going to have to file for BK and was instructed to get a letter from my lawyer so the modification process can continue.

1/22/10 - Filed for BK

2/23/10 - Called and spoke with Crissy. They received letter from the lawyer, but no update at this time

2/24/10 - Called again. Spoke to Paris (BK dept). Need to resend all the documents again.

3/1/10 - Called to verify B of A received the documents. They did “again”.

4/2/10 -Received a letter from B of A stating “no options available” for modification.

4/5/10 - Called B of A. Spoke with Justin. Resend updated income and expense information. Also told to contact HUD for counseling.

4/8/10 - Called and spoke to Bill for status update. Was told there were “no options available”. Asked to speak to a supervisor. Spoke with Iris to find out why I didn’t qualify.  She couldn’t give me an answer, but said “you probably don’t make enough”, and said I should refax my income and expenses again. Then call in 3 days to see if they received it.

4/14/10 - Received a letter from B of A stating “no options available.

4/19/10 – Call HUD. Spoke to Delores. Told about denial letter from B of A. He went over my numbers with me and said I SHOULD of qualified for HAMP. She conferenced in B of A to ask why I was denied.  They couldn’t tell her, but they said I did not qualify BECAUSE  I WAS BEHIND ON MY MORTGAGE.  HUD was very firm with B of A and quoted the preliminary qualifications to her. B of A placed us on hold and then we got cut off. Deloris tried to call back, but was only able to leave a message this time.

4/20/10 - Call and left a message for Delores at HUD.

4/22/10 – Call HUD and spoke to  Cecilia.  She conferenceD in with B of A and we spoke with Desiree Delgado in the BK dept to get the reason for the denial.  No answer was given by B of A, but was told to refax all the income and expenses, hardship letter, etc. to the same number that I’d been faxing things all along.

4/27/10 - Called B of A to verify that they received the whole package. Spoke with John. Packet was received. I was transferred to the Bankruptcy Dept. and spoke with Rashida.  She said its “In review”, and to call back in 2 weeks.

4/30/10 - Call HUD, spoke with Ann. Will call me back. She said the “Escalation” dept of HUD is handling this with the B of A management.

5/10/10 - Called HUD Escalation team. Spoke with Nancy. She is going to review all the notes and call me back.

5/10/10 - HUD, Michelle called back and conferenced in B of A. Spoke with Julie. Said the file was still in review and then the call was dropped… or she hung up.  Couldn’t tell which.

5/11/10 - Call B of A Rania. Was transferred to the BK Dept. I sent in 2 mortgage payments and was making sure they were credited. Also inquired about status of modification. Transferred to Brianna- no update available on modification.

5/11/10 - HUD told me to call HOPE and do the counseling so it could be documented. Did that with Money Management International. Notes were sent to B of A.

5/17/10 - Call B of A. No update. No notes about notice of intent to accelerate or foreclosure notices at this time.

5/19/10 – Call HUD. Spoke with Steve. Conferenced with B of A and spoke with David. Verified that workout file is “in review”.  Also B of A verified some of the information I sent in and then said he was referring my file to the HAMP program for the next review. Stated I should receive a packet in the mail within 30 days to discuss the trial payments.

5/25/10 – Call B of A  on status. Spoke with Jason. Still under review.

6/3/10 – Called B of A. Spoke with Stella. File still under review.

6/4/10 - Wrote to Mandelman Matters about “who can I trust” to help me in my plight to get a loan mod.  We wrote back and forth a few times and he was prompt answering my questions.  Martin even told me to call if I wanted to talk about the situation.   I almost fell out of my chair when I read that because I didn’t know if I was in for a “sales” pitch.

6/6/10- 9pm - Decided to call Martin Aandelman with additional questions.  I couldn’t believe he said it was ok to call him so late on a Sunday night. We spoke for about an hour and then Martin thought I could get some solid help and advice from Julie Greenfield (a lawyer that deals with loan mods).  He texted her around 10pm to see if she could talk, especially being so late.  Martin conferenced her in with me and explained my whole dilemma.  She immediately had thought B of A had sent my file to the “transfer around the building party”.  I don’t know how the over 400 pages I had sent them, and resent them a dozen times could actually have ended into the wrong department. Julie offered to make an inquiry call for me to check on the status.  Julie would send me an authorization the next day to give her legal permission to speak with B of A.  I actually could not BELIEVE there were actual good people that would help me in my time of chaos with B of A, and not get paid for it.   THERE IS A GOD!

6/7/10 - Made my usual call to B of A, which seems to almost be daily now, about my loan mod status. Spoke with David.  I was placed on hold for a while so he could “review” the notes. He stated a negotiator was assigned (Oscar Nunez) to negotiate with the investor and then I should be receiving a packet by next Wednesday (6/16/10) or the following Wednesday. He explicitly told me to call back if I don’t receive it.

6/7/10 – Received the authorization from Julie Greenfield (the lawyer). Faxed it back to her and she said she would call someone at B of A the next day.

6/8/10 – Julie wrote me after she called B of A.  It seems now that my case had been assigned to a different negotiator from the one they told me about the day before. So now Valarie Kemp is reviewing the file for HAMP and Non-HAMP programs. However, now it could take another 30 days for review, which is A LOT different than “I’m supposed to get my documents by next Wednesday”.  At this point I don’t believe anything B of A tells me because if they think they can tell me one thing to get me off their back, and then tell an attorney another thing, which was probably the truth.  So, I’m still frustrated, but I finally feel I have someone to trust with my case. THANK YOU MARTIN AND JULIE.

You are quite welcome, and it was no problem… happy to help… and Julie’s not only one of my favorite people on the planet but she’s super smart about all things mortgage banking.

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Here’s a good one…

Q. What do you get when you mix Bank of America with Countrywide and Merrill Lynch?

A. TARP Funds.

Or how about this one…

Q. What do you get when you mix Bank of America with Countrywide and Merrill Lynch?

A. A little over twenty million bucks, $20,404,009 to be precise.

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Read it and weep, people, read it and weep.  Torch or Pitchfork?

While CEO of Bank of America in 2007, Kenneth D. Lewis earned a total compensation of $20,404,009, which included an annual base salary of $1,500,000, a cash bonus of $4,250,000, stocks granted of $11,065,798, and options granted of $3,376,000.

But wait… there’s more!

He is also leaving with more than $135 million in retirement benefits, including the pension and $10 million in life insurance benefits, according to an analysis of corporate filings by James F. Reda & Associates, an independent consulting firm.

Lewis is a graduate of Georgia State University, where he earned a bachelor of arts degree in finance  from J. Mack Robinson College of Business. He is also a graduate of the executive program at Stanford University.

Wow… now that’s truly impressive. Not only did Kenny earn his bachelors in finance from Georgia State, but he hungered for knowledge, so he also took a couple of weeks off one summer to attend an executive program at Stanford?  Now you see, that I did not know.  Makes me feel kind of bad for calling him a spineless, yet dangerous moron for the last couple of years.

Actually, Kenny’s educational background has motivated me to sign up for one of those “executive programs,” but I’ve decided to attend the HARVARD EXECUTIVE PROGRAM.   (Now that’s what I call “HIGHER LEARNING!”)


Ergo Bibamus!

Comments

  1. ReaLawBuck says

    I recognize just about every one of those BofA names. I've dealt with them too and had the same results. You could not possibly come up with a more dysfunctional system or organization. The amount of money paid to their executives is obscene.

  2. VFR RIDER says

    Got tons of these stories. We (the law firm I work for)recently started using the BAC "homeownership outreach center' in Henderson Nevada. we escort the client to the meeting with the BAC representative. of course the BAc representatives are "shocked" to hear of some of the 'issues' (shennanigans) that their borrowers are having to endure to obtain a loan modification. the only way a company could operate so poorly is intentionally.

  3. Robin says

    They're hoping you just think they are "too big..." what's that phrase again?

  4. ppulatie says

    Martin,

    Here is the next part of the B of A scam. They are reviewing her for a HAMP modification. The problem is that HAMP does not apply to Privately Securitized loans. Only portfolio, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So she will likely be declined.

    Also, if this was a Countrywide securitized loan, then there is likely another problem. Those loans usually had in the PSA a clause that states that to do a modification, the servicer must buy the loan back from the investor.

    Who is going to buy a loan in default and is underwater?

    Patrick
    Loan Fraud Investigations

  5. cmor says

    BANK OF AMERICA
    Higher Standards

    We've upped our standards, now up yours.

  6. danmudd1 says

    Bank of America's mod program is ridiculous at best. They lose more documents, have more stories, and try to deny anything they can. Still working on my mod since Jan 2009......

  7. beachgo says

    Same nightmare with Bank of America.Dealing with them for over a year.
    They are scum.What shocks me more is that OUR PRESIDENT who was going to help all these homeowners is allowing the B---S---to take place.The American people are struggling financially, working hard to deal with saving their homes with underhanded scum like Brian Moynihan and his crew. Their isn't one BOA homeowner who doesn't have a story to tell about trying to get their mortgages modified by this ridiculous program, only to be played a fool. Well it is time homeowners to remember this when it comes to elections.Sorry I ever cast my vote for the man.All he did was save these financial institutions-------nothing for the homeowners.THANK YOU MR.PRESIDENT AND WASHINGTON FOR NOTHING.

  8. mandelman says

    HEY BEACHGO... Your comment is word for word what I've been trying to tell politicians and lobbyists for some time now... they don't get it because it doesn't show up in the polls. You see, it's the silent crisis... no one talks about it publicly. I'm going to do a piece on it. Let me know if I can use your comment in it... I won't use your name or screen id or anything like that. You can email me at mandelman@mac.com.
    Mandelman

  9. beachgo says

    Yes it is me again. After working on behalf of a homeowner who not only started this long journey with the MAKING HOME AFFORDABLE PROGRAM first with Countrywide -packet and all documents provided and first trial pmt.sent. Then Bank Of America took over the servicing of the loan. Started all over again with them.Packet filled out and returned, missing documents they claim were never received faxed over and over again, updated financials you name it. ONE NiGHTMARE after another.They (BOA) claim homeowner missed one of the three trial pmts.I have now sent a letter to the Congressional Oversight Committee.As you will see at the end of this blog. Now MR. President and Washington how do you address this matter? Seems to me the PROGRAM WORKS FOR ??????


    What does it take for Washington to make these lenders accountable? Entered into the Making Home Affordable Program with Bank of America.Trial payments due dates 6/12/2009 7/1/2009 8/1/2009 . Treasures cks from Credit Union all sent US Postal Express with Tracking Numbers. All payments signed for by Bank of America. I am now filing complaints ( Federal Trade Commision, Comptroller of Currency, Office of Inspector General www.sigtarp.gov. I have spent almost a year trying to resolve this with BOA. phone calls back and forth, faxed over copies front and back of Treasures Checks, provided them with tracking numbers as to who signed for them at Bank of America, e-mails between the Hope Foundation and Bank of America, as of yesterday 7/3/2010 still informed missing one of those trial payments.My next step provide this info to the media. God help us all these financial institutions are a disgrace.My documentation will speak for itself. According to Bank Of America by phone (not in writing) kicked out of THE MAKING HOME AFFORDABLE PROGRAM.Washington you have failed the homeowners across this country.They can have the house.[/b]

  10. James cuck says

    My first reaction was to mentally list my bank accounts, IRAs and credit cards to see if I was in possession of one I could cancel. After all, any company stupid enough to permit this travesty shouldn’t be trusted with my money.

  11. mandelman says

    Here, here!

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